World Cup Fly 2002

Flyer	Score	Quality	Depth	State or Country
John Wiens	775.2	1.6	1.5	Canada
Ferid Catak	623.28	1.4	1.4	Denmark
Kevin MCcray	455.68	1.6	1.6	California
Linne Rose	445.5	1.5	1.5	Washington
George Babaris	440.44	1.3	1.4	Canada
Ken Billings	390	1.3	1.5	Idaho
Carlos Cornejo	386.4	1.4	1.5	California
Colyn Nel	386.4	1.4	1.5	South Africa
George Mason	385.32	1.3	1.3	England
Johan Du Preez	349.83	1.3	1.3	South Africa
Buks Knoetze	343	1.4	1.4	South Africa
Henk Voets	313.6	1.4	1.4	Holland
Richard Hayes	297.6	1.5	1.6	Montana
Ken Weaver	290.68	1.3	1.3	England
JoeBob Stuka	274.4	1.4	1.4	North Carolina
Bains & Mosley	274.4	1.4	1.4	England
Johneeta Chapan	268.52	1.4	1.4	California
John Destouet	254.8	1.4	1.4	California
Marcus Collaco	199.42	1.3	1.3	Australia
John Siotas	192.96	1.2	1.2	Australia
Don Ouellette	180	1.3	1.4	California
Walter Teal	177.45	1.3	1.3	Texas
Frank Dry	168.48	1.2	1.2	South Africa
Gary Stephens	163.24	1.1	1.4	Washington
Scott Campbell	161.98	1.3	1.4	California
Nick Tsoltoudis	160.68	1.2	1.3	Australia
Jim Bakker	139.89	1.3	1.3	California
Richard Miller	136	1.2	1.2	Ohio
Alonzo Johnson	119.99	1.3	1.3	California
Dave Sanchez	118.3	1.3	1.4	California
Brian Ridley	110.88	1.1	1.2	Massachusetts
Gustavo Medel	108.16	1.3	1.3	California
Lee Wade	107.64	1.2	1.3	California
Dave Hafner	92.16	1.2	1.2	Arkansas
Mario Aquino	79.43	1.3	1.3	New York
Hennie Pfhal	79.2	1.1	1.2	South Africa
Gary Lancaster	78	1.2	1.3	Utah
John Underberg	73.92	1.1	1.2	Iowa
Ken Easley	59.15	1.3	1.3	New Mexico
Paul Joubert	56.16	1.2	1.2	South Africa
Bruce Kladja	50.4	1.2	1.2	Arizona
Mike Sweeney	48.4	1.0	1.1	Massachusetts
Dan Cowell	48	1.0	1.0	California
JJ Ransom	45.24	1.2	1.3	California
Chuck Roe	43	1.1	1.1	California
Michael Baldwin	41	1.0	1.0	Texas
Aubrey Thibodeaux	36	1.0	1.0	Louisiana
Jesse Comer	36	1.0	1.2	California
Jarrett Branch	35	1.3	1.4	California
Bobby Bradley	30	1.0	1.0	Tennessee
Bob Westfall	30.0	1.0	1.0	Missouri
John Conradie	23.66	1.3	1.3	South Africa
Jimmy Roodt	22	1.0	1.0	South Africa
Larry Hubbard	0			Kentucky
Steve Grancic	0			Australia
Thayne Lee	DQ			Utah
Gert Du Plessis	DQ			South Africa
GT Lofts	DQ			South Africa
Peter Covich	DQ			Australia
Frank Vahling	DQ			Colorado

Score divided in four sections of 5 minutes to indicate the work rate. 19 birds.

Pigeons started really nice, frequent and nice quality in the first 5 min. Later the kit often split up or a few birds left the kit, so they scored a lot less. No fly pattern, just trying to stay together above the loft. Saw about 6 real nice quality pigeons.

Kit flew on nice height, but the birds didnÂt work together, no activity, only 6 just scorable breaks seen, sad for Bobby. DonÂt use all your luck to qualify, safe some for the finals!

Birds flew to a good height and started working real nice, but after about 5 min. The kit started to dive and fly nervous around the huge pine trees and only scored a few more breaks. Some birds in the kit with better quality and depth than scored.

Birds flew a bit too high for a really good view. They scored a few breaks, but quality

And depth was just scorable no more. Hopefully more luck for the guys in Louisiana

Birds were active, but flew nervous. In a lot of breaks most of the pigeons not scorable. In the second 5 min. Birds relaxed a little and did score some points.

Nice working kit as you can see in the score the first half of the fly. Second part less activity and to many not scorable birds in the breaks, still a nice score.

Kit made a few breaks in the first 5 min., but flew too fast, left and right turns no breaks.

Kit was pretty stiff and flew a bit too high, could still score some nice breaks.1 Bird down after 12 min.., probably a little nervous due to recent falcon attacks.

Kit only scored a few decent breaks in the first 10 min. And that was all for this kit.

The birds flew straight above the loft and pretty high. Not a lot of activity but never

Birds flew at a nice height, started working nice. Loose kitting and a few times

Birds scored 15 breaks but still quite a few not scorable pigeons in the breaks.

A few breaks in the first 10 min., but birds flew too high for good judging of quality and depth. Kit stiff in the second past of the fly.

Kit started very excited and one bird rolled down in the greenhouse and stayed down.

Don entered 18 birds in the fly! In the first 10 min. The birds kitted nice, but flew a little too fast, but scored some beautiful quality breaks. In the second part the birds flew too low and scored another few breaks but only scorable quality what hurt his overall quality multiplier.

Kit flew stiff the first 5 min., not a really active kit but still 11 breaks! They flew on a nice height. Nice set up, a keen fancier.

DaveÂs birds started a little slow and had problems with kitting, to often a few birds flew away from the kit and this certainly did his score no good! At least 3 real nice rollers in his kit.

19 John DeStouet La Palma California.

The kit was active, with nice speed and depth, in the first 15 min. Better and tighter kitting would cause bigger breaks in this kit. The kit missed the fly pattern for a good set up to break together! A nice entertaining kit!

Kit started with fast short breaks, but later in the fly they scored better and deeper breaks.

Kit started scoring some small scorable breaks but the kitting was not good enough for better breaks. Rest of fly hardly no action, some weak attempts to break.

A perfect timing of releasing the kit, this seemed very important for Kevin and he was probably right. The kit started scoring beautiful breaks with good quality and depth, less frequent halfway the fly, but at the end again some really nice breaks. A constant performance what means, good quality pigeons, nice team.

Real active kit, lots of energy. Missed some breaks because of falling apart of kit and in the last part less frequent. Nice kit! Quality of the breaks varied between good and scorable.

Kit was not really frequent, but scored the entire time small breaks of reasonable quality and depth.

Birds released and were very exited, flew too low and few birds hit but calmed down, and went to a nice height, time in and they started scoring pretty active, but only in the first part of the fly. At the end a nice half turn with better quality than the breaks in the first part.

Kit started and seemed not to have much energy , flew very slow. The birds started scoring nice in the first part of fly, but poor quality and a lot of birds with mistakes in the roll and open.

Nice hard working kit. Kitting not good enough! A lot of the breaks not really explosive, some following through effect. Good depth and velocity. Tighter kitting would certainly have given more half turns with these birds! A nice performance!

Score : 7 8 5 10 6 7 5 6 10 8 8 // 5 5 6 5 5 5 12 8 7 7 6 // 7 7 10 8 8 6 5 // 10 7 8 9 7 8 10.

Birds flew stable to a nice height, started kitting and after a few min. John called time in. The kit started working real nice and with good speed and depth in the breaks. First part very active, kitting was often too loose what cost him bigger breaks. A few not reliable kitters made him miss a few beautiful half turns extra! Beautiful kit to judge! Best working quality kit I saw. Congratulations.

Beautiful start with an active kit and some good half turns with nice quality and depth. The excitement was over in 10 min. And then the kit just flew flat and very high. First 5 min. it seemed as if they were going to beat John Wiens his score! Maybe next time?

This kit too started very active, but like RichÂ kit these too stopped working after 10 min.

Very active, good depth but quality was difficult to judge because of distance, what hurt his quality score. 23 breaks in the first 10 min., very good but they have to work the entire to win!

Birds seemed not to be ready for the fly. A few bad kitters , Gary lost about 6 breaks.

Still pretty warm, the birds did not really want to fly and after 2 just scorable breaks and 6 min. In the fly they landed. It seemed to me that it was more because they were too hungry than that it was too hot, but Thayne has to know! Sad a DQ in such a competition.

Birds were just too hungry, broken down, they just did not want to fly and landed in 6 min. A DQ is always sad and you canÂt compare with anything, because you donÂt have a score.

Birds disappeared because of the strong wind, after 10 min. back in sight and they scored some breaks, some breaks missed behind the trees. Kid was playing with the wind.

Larry wanted to fly in the afternoon, not a good choice afterwards, the birds didnÂt really

want to fly, it took several min. before they got some height. After time in, one and then

two birds out and never in again. Saw some nice breaks but couldnÂt score! Egg in the

Another kit with nice activity in the first 10 min. and almost flat the second part. All scorable breaks and depth but only a few rollers with extra quality and depth, during this fly.

Birds out and one bird hits, probably hurt because it lands in 5 min., rest of the kit flies ok but kitting is bad. At the start and end of fly some activity with at end some better quality.

Kit only active in the first part, but quality of breaks just scorable, lot of birds poor quality and not scorable, the kit wasnÂt ready. Kit landed just after 15 min. what saved the score.

Due to the fog a what difficult start, but the kit started working and scored 7 breaks first 5 min. but was less active the rest of the fly. Overall quality was poor, just scorable only a few better quality breaks.

The kit flew low and often a little too far away, so he missed some breaks behind the trees. Kit was very active, quality often too loose, but in some bigger breaks better quality and tighter birds, depth was nice. I wonder what this kit would have done in perfect weather conditions.

Kit blown away in strong wind, loose rolling and not together, after 5 min. time in, and could score birds at end of street. Missed a few breaks behind the trees. Quality in the bigger breaks a lot better then in the smaller breaks.

Score : 5 5 5 55 7 7 6 6 7 8 7 10 6 14 5 7 6 5 // 6 8 11 8 9 10 14 6 7 7 // 5 // 10 8 6 5 6 6

Birds out and after 2 min. they settle down and time in. They start scoring nice with good quality and depth, very active, but only small breaks and too many individual working birds, they didnÂt wait for each other. Later some bigger breaks with nice quality and depth. After 10 min. less active and a few birds leave the kit and almost ruined the fly, it looked as if they were going to land, but they went back to the kit and in last 5 min. kit scores again some nice breaks, lucky Ferid! Beautiful fly!

20 birds. Time flown 20 min. Like many kits very active in the start and quiet after about 10 min. Poor quality and short in the small breaks and better quality and depth in the bigger breaks. Blown away a little by the wind.

Beautiful entertaining active kit, flew perfect in sight. A lot of the small breaks, poor quality, just scorable. Kit lost discipline a few times and started flying too fast and changing wings. When concentrated again they started scoring and showed in the bigger breaks a lot better quality.

Dave flew late to avoid falcon attacks. Start was active and good quality and depth in all the breaks. Breaks at the end were of a lesser quality, what results in a lower average quality factor.

Not a very active kit. They did score in the first part but quality was poor with a lot of rollers with faults what you canÂt score. It wasnÂt their day.

Pigeons out, and they flew weak and the rolling was loose, open. Pretty active but only just scorable quality, probably to weak, the kit landed after 9 min., what means DQ.

Kit started flying in the same circle above the loft, left wing all the time and only scored 4 just scorable breaks and flew flat the rest. They landed after exactly 20 min. He, manager what did you do? What happened, what went wrong?

The kit starts flying in circles and too fast. They show us some nice breaks and even a half

Turn after 8min., but the kit behavior looks nervous. After 11 min. the kit starts flying lower and after another break the kit lands, unstable behavior, some bumps. To weak?

Kitting was loose, stretched out over the sky. Birds were active, clean in the roll but soft. Seen one outstanding spinner in this kit, beautiful. Nice entertaining kit.

Nice good working kit especially first 10 min. Like almost everywhere the quality in the bigger breaks a lot better than in the rest of the breaks. Last part quiet but still breaking. Good kit!

Birds fly to a nice height and good kitting. One bird disappears and we havenÂt seen it again. They start with 2 nice breaks and that was all, they flew flat the rest of the time. What happened manager?

The kit started beautiful with 11 breaks and 4 half turns in the first 5 min.! We were exited but the kit was quiet after 5 min. and just refused to give us more big breaks, they thought it was enough. A nice quality end depth in the breaks. After 5 min. the kit lost concentration and discipline and to much individual work was the result. A good score for about 5 min. really good work!

The kit scores a few breaks but the wind is pretty strong and they like to fly far from the loft. Out of sight some time, kit comes back above the loft few times but just donÂt care where they fly. Could still score a few breaks.

Kit starts quiet, but was ready after 5 min. in the fly and showed us some really beautiful perfect breaks above the loft. By far the best quality breaks IÂve seen in this competition! Strange was that the breaks away from the loft, same kit same pigeons, were of poor quality. A few times the kit lost concentration, discipline and was spread out over the sky for a few moments and later came together again. Some out birds a few times.

Birds in the air and the kit scores some average quality breaks and then 3 min. in the fly a falcon attacks the kit and takes one, another bird gets out of the kit and lands. The kit gets together again and even starts scoring again, but they decide to land all, after 13 min. Some decent rollers but still a lot with faults in roll style. I hope more luck for Peter next time!

Birds flew nice height, but kitting wasnÂt good. Kit stays active all the time, most birds to soft in the roll and need some more depth. Better kitting will probably cause more energy in the breaks.

The kit flies fast and disappears and we saw them again after 30 min. so sad enough no score! Birds were attacked a lot lately by the falcons what probably caused this behavior!

Kit goes to a nice height and starts working, lack of speed and depth in the breaks.

A few bigger breaks with extra quality but average was to soft in the roll, lack of velocity often not clean in the roll. Birds need more power, explosive energy in the breaks.

Kit released but they seemed not happy that they had to fly, it takes several min. for them to reach a nice height then time in called. The kit starts working nice with good breaks of average quality and depth. Breaks at end of fly were lesser quality what hurt the average quality multiplier again. Almost seemed that they wanted to land before 15 min. but fortunately they flew the time.

A little nervous to do it again, but really glad that I could do it and meet a lot of friends again.

This judging of Birmingham rollers all over the World is the most beautiful thing to win in our hobby, so go for it! After two months of traveling I came home as fit as the day when I left, unbelievable but the enthusiasm of all those people I met, gave me lots of energy, excellent hosts everywhere!

I think that the overall quality of the kits I saw in America was better than two years ago, but what I still missed in a lot of the kits was the fig 8 fly pattern what a kit needs for a good setup to break together. When a kit is used to fly fig 8 pattern, then birds that break from the kit, know when they get out of the roll, where the kit is so they get out off the roll faced in the right direction. A lot of kits I saw just flew straight above the loft, with no particularly direction. After a break there was a lot of confusion because the birds came out of the roll in all different directions, because they donÂt know where the rest of the kit is. This lack of fly pattern also causes the often splitting of the kits and a lot more of the kitting problems.

Only tight kitting gives the big simultaneous breaks we want, and everywhere I was, I saw a lot better quality in the bigger breaks!

To meet the people in the regions I couldnÂt visit two years ago was something special too, I really looked forward to meet the fanciers there, with a lot of well-known names. I was very glad to complete the entire trip around America this time!

In Holland it was windy, but HenkÂs kit put up a nice show, we were satisfied seen the circumstances.

Denmark was a pleasant surprise; Ferid put up a nice good working kit with a beautiful result!

In England we had terrible weather, rain and wind, but fortunately for the flyers when they had to fly the weather was good. I saw beautiful breaks. Disappointing that I couldnÂt visit a lot more fanciers in this Birmingham Roller country with lots of good flyers.

South Africa has a lot of crazy keen fanciers; I had a beautiful time over there, a lot of fun and saw a few really nice kits. The potential to win the World Cup is there! Most beautiful quality break on my entire trip I saw in South Africa!

Australia the new region! In Australia every fancier wanted to know how are our birds compared to the rest of the world? I think there is a lot of work to do for the Australian fanciers, but what I saw is that they really work hard to improve. I was surprised about the numbers of peregrine falcons attacking the kits almost everywhere, a huge handicap to improve your family of birds. I did see some nice working kits, but not a few outstanding birds to enjoy and to compare with the rest. The kitting was often a problem too.

In Australia they donÂt have the same opportunities to get the birds they want to work with as in the rest of the world. A lot of the fanciers work together so they will improve their quality as fast as possible. I had a wonderful time down under and sure will be back some day to see the result of their enthusiast work to improve the quality of their birds.

I want to thank all those people who picked me up from the airports and drove me around; they are the fanciers we need to keep competitions like this alive. Guil Rand our G.C. made a perfect schedule for me, I had no problems at all on the entire trip and there were I believe about 35 flights. And thank you very much Dennis Hayes, for creating a website with the results so everybody could follow it on Internet. We need an own World Cup website [ I hope Dennis is already working on it!], so all the news and results can be seen on Internet all the time and especially during the judging trip.

All the best for everybody in this fantastic hobby and please keep supporting this World Cup Roller Fly, because itÂs the most beautiful competition to fly in and it brings fanciers together from all over the world, to compare their birds, read and communicate about it.

	World Cup 2002
	Fly off Report

19 John DeStouet La Palma California.